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16.10.2008 17:38:33
Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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I bought Remote Buddy to use with Plex (and my Harmony 550 remote), and so far it works pretty well except for one thing.

When I click "OK" on a menu item in Plex, it will often double-click, putting me two levels deep instead of just one. For example, if I scroll to "Battlestar Galactica" and click "OK" (which is mapped through Remote Buddy to the return/enter key), it will often make a "click-click" sound, and then I'm looking at the list of Season 1 episodes rather than the list of Seasons 1-4. This doesn't happen ALL the time, but it does happen MOST of the time.

I can't replicate it by just using the keyboard, and this problem wasn't present until I installed Remote Buddy.

In the Behavior Construction Kit I have set the Operation to be "Single key press between button press & release", but it still sometimes sends two. I have confirmed that the remote itself is only sending ONE signal.

Any ideas? I'm very frustrated. 

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User

16.10.2008 18:05:12
Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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Thanks for asking.

Generally: 
I recommend to use the latest version of Plex and the Plex Behaviour 
that ships with Remote Buddy. This works fine out of the box.

With "Single key press between press & release", Remote Buddy emulates 
a key press when you press the button on the remote and a key release 
when you release the button of the remote. While it doesn't send 
repeat events explicitely like "Single key press between press & 
release with repetitions", many media applications install a timer on 
receipt of a key press and "emulate" their own "repeats" until the key 
is released. The idea behind that from an application's developer 
perspective is independance from the key repetition rate that can be 
different on a per user basis.

In order to prevent repeats - also target-application-internal ones 
(which is likely what you are seeing) - completely, you should select 
"Single key press on press". That will make Remote Buddy send a single 
key press and release immediately after one another when you press the 
button.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

17.10.2008 17:01:35
Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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Felix, thanks for the reply. However, I have tried both "Single key on press" and "Single key on release" options, compiled and installed the behavior, but I still get the double-click (only on Enter) problem in Plex.

I don't think I can use the default Plex behavior that ships with Remote Buddy, because I am using a Harmony remote and needed to customize each button. I setup everything from scratch. All the other buttons work properly except for the Enter button.

When I'm on the settings page for that behavior, if I click "Run actor", it works properly. It never double-clicks, no matter what the key setting is. But once the behavior is installed and I'm using the Harmony remote, it will often double-click. I've disabled the Plex internal remote handler, I've increased the repeat time on the Harmony...I don't know what else to do! 

User

17.10.2008 22:47:16
Re: Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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Thanks for your reply.

You can use the Plex Behaviour that ships with Remote Buddy with any 
supported remote control. Since it exposes pretty much any keyboard 
command that I know of, you should be fine to use with any remote.

Regarding your problem: 
I think what happens in your case is that your Harmony sends a full 
button code multiple times (you mention a repeat option that you've 
set), which of course the receiver and thus Remote Buddy can only 
interpret as a button being pressed multiple times. If the Harmony 
just replays the code it was taught without understanding the 
specifics of the IR code format, that's what will happen and what will 
give you the results you observe.

What remote control are you trying to replace with the Harmony?

Have you tried using the actual remote instead of the Harmony?

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

18.10.2008 20:01:43
Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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It may be unrelated, but I'm also having problems with Plex and Remote Buddy, in that Plex quits responding to the Enter/Play key completely. This behaviour occurs both with a Harmony remote (885 I believe) and the standard Apple remote.

Using the remote directly (disabling Remote Buddy) the issue does not occur.

I don't really understand why our two results are different, but it seems an odd coincidence that both are with Plex, Remote Buddy, and the Enter key.

Thoughts? 

User

22.10.2008 10:53:06
Re: Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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Thanks for asking.

Remote Buddy sends keystrokes and it does so reliably. Since in the 
past, 100% of all issues have been bugs in Plex and I'm really, really 
short of time right now and can't spend time on debugging Plex issues 
at the moment, please contact the Plex team directly for assistance 
regarding their software.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

24.10.2008 18:56:25
Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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What remote control are you trying to replace with the Harmony?

Have you tried using the actual remote instead of the Harmony?

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz

 
I understand what you're saying about the learning code, but I don't think that's it since none of the other learned codes are repeating. I will re-learn it though, which brings me to my other question.

The remote I'm replacing with the Harmony is the standard Apple Remote. I setup 8 logical remotes in Remote Buddy, and taught my Harmony the signals from all 8.

So, for example, the Play button from Logical Apple Remote 2 sends the "Stop" keystroke. The Play button from Logical Remote 7 is the "OK/Select" keystroke (Enter). I have around 40 different commands setup this way.

So, if you think this is a signal problem, and if the erroneous learned signal was from Logical Remote 7, how can I get the Apple Remote back to that remote ID to re-teach the Harmony? Or do I have to delete that logical remote and re-learn that whole set?

Thanks for your help. 

User

01.11.2008 18:18:16
Re: Re: Remote Buddy sends double-enter to Plex
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Thanks for asking.

You can increase the internal ID of an Apple Remote by holding down 
the Menu and Play buttons for about 6 seconds.

Regarding the logical remotes: you don't need to recreate those. 
Instead, press a button on the Apple Remote after changing the 
internal ID and it'll appear in Remote Buddy's hardware prefs. You can 
then assign any already existing logical remote to that new ID.

I recommend to first test, whether your Harmony can truely emulate 
Apple Remote button presses correctly, so that you don't go through 
the whole process just to find out you're facing the same problem again.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz