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29.10.2008 23:38:03
double click ending on a hold button actions
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Hi,

I was contemplating the small number of buttons that the apple remote has to offer and started to think that if it was possible to detect it a click followed by a click and hold would be a nice action (a double click then hold as it were) to double the number of buttons remote buddy could map on. It's something that you'd be unlikely to press accidentally unlike actions that are overridden on just a simple hold, or double click alone.

Is it something that would be detectable, and if so can a user add this or would you guys have to add it to remote buddy itself?

What do you think?

Cheers

Jim 

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01.11.2008 18:33:16
Re: double click ending on a hold button actions
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Thanks for asking.

I can see how you could use any combination of double clicks, "click 
gestures" etc. to make more functions directly accessible on each 
respective button.

All of that does come at a price, though:

1) It'll add long lag times. Since, after a single button press, 
you'll never know whether a second won't follow - and then, not about 
how long it'll be pressed. With all the timeouts necessary combined, 
you'll end up with a 1 to 1,5 second lag on your button presses.

2) Also, what if you'd like to f.ex. jump to the next song in iTunes 
(quick right click) and then fast forward (long right click)? With 
"click gestures" support, it'd neither jump to the next song nor fast 
forward on it. It'd do something else.

3) It's hard to remember more than two functions per button.

4) All in all, I think it's counterintuitive. Just like in 2), you'd 
have to always remember to make pauses between button presses, so that 
they aren't grouped together and do something else. Not only is that 
error prone, but that again, adds more lag. Imagine if you had to 
concentrate and think from the program's perspective for each button 
press and the pauses inbetween. In consequence, you'd end up with a 
lot of actions being performed that you didn't want to perform, a lot 
of actions not being performed that you wanted to see performed and 
due to all the timeouts that needed to be involved, you might only be 
able to trigger a new action every two seconds or so.

To conclude: 
It may be technically possible. But I myself wouldn't want to use 
anything such due to the usability issues that it brings along.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

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01.11.2008 19:24:18
Re: double click ending on a hold button actions
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Thanks for the response felix, very nicely thought out and worked through. Of course you are right. I guess i was too busy trying to move the combo away from normal operation as the hold button action seems to get in the way, stopping you from being able to scroll through a list quickly vertically, or horizontally.

I guess deep down I just wish there was a few more buttons on the remote. It does work well with frontrow and remote buddy is great at letting you control your mac quite well with just a handful of buttons.

There's no way to use other remotes with remote buddy is there, without extra IR receivers plugged in. I guess the PS3 bluetooth remote has potential?

Anyways, thanks for your great program.

Cheers

Jim 

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03.11.2008 11:30:16
Re: Re: double click ending on a hold button actions
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The internal Apple IR receiver can only be used with the Apple Remote 
and no other IR remote. It's limited in hardware, where the IR 
decoding takes place.

If your Mac has a Bluetooth Receiver, you can of course still use the 
Sony PS3 BD Remote and the Wii Remote with Remote Buddy. And the PS3 
remote certainly is a good choice, if you want to have lots and lots 
of buttons available to you.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz