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25.04.2007 08:09:01
wii remote ir calibration
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I'm not able to calibrate the wii ir mouse feature ( build RC2). It 
seems as though the ir is not bright enough. If that makes sense? I 
can calibrate to a bright light source, but then I have to point the 
wii at the light bulb to get the cursor to move on the screen. I've 
tried close up to the tv and mac mini (same place really, right next 
to each other). Any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated. Also 
kudos for the ability to change the length of time the song display 
window stays on. Thanks. 

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25.04.2007 14:57:24
Re: wii remote ir calibration
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I'm having the same issue with my Intel Mac mini as well. I can't get my Wii remote to do anything mouse related without using the D-pad. I tried calibration and it didn't seem to do anything. 
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26.04.2007 02:07:03
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Hello Casey, hi Craig,

that makes perfect sense. You need a strong IR light source like a 
tea light or candle. Your Mac Mini or TV shouldn't emit much if any 
IR light / great heat and would probably also be too massive as that 
they could be used as a - literally - hot spot for the Wiimote to 
recognize.

The calibration does only kick in after you already have a IR source 
that is strong enough. It allows you to determine in which range you 
want to move the cursor across the screen. But you'll usually not 
need that as Remote Buddy is preconfigured with values good for 
almost every purpose.

You can (ab)use calibration to also see what your IR sensor is 
seeing, though. Alternatively, you can also do this by pressing 
button 1 to activate/deactive the IR mouse mode.

What calibration doesn't (and can't) do is to change the sensitivity 
of the IR sensor. Hardware wise it's possible to adjust it, but you'd 
still need a proper IR source, so it wouldn't be of help here either.

Hope that helps.

Best regards, 
Felix 

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26.04.2007 02:48:42
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Hi Felix, 
Thanks for the reply. I guess I wasn't clear on what caused me to try and calibrate the wii remote ir. The cursor doesn't move at all (motion sensitive wise) after I pair the remote. The only way to get the cursor to move is to choose virtual mouse and use the pad keys. I gather from your reply that the motion sensing cursor movement should just work after pairing. (Yes I have tried the toggle (1) button) So my question is, how do I get the ir motion sensing to work, because the only way I can get the cursor to move via motion is to calibrate to a very bright light and then I have to point the wii remote at the bright light (not the screen) to get the cursor to move on the screen. 
Thanks, 
Casey 
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26.04.2007 11:53:01
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Hello Casey,

thanks for the follow up.

The InfraRed light source (and infrared light is also emitted at 
great heat - that's why a candle is working and a TV isn't) is 
*required*. The motion / accelleration sensors aren't used by Remote 
Buddy at this time and would probably also not be accurate enough to 
allow accurate mouse movements. For more background info on this, 
here's an interesting read:

http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Wiimote#IR_Sensor

I've implemented support for the IR sensor starting with a battery of 
candles on the desk in front of the screen and finally cutting down 
Remote Buddy's candle needs to one candle - which is a world premiere 
as far as I know ;-)

And, as said, the calibration has nothing to do with the intensity an 
IR light source has to have. It just allows you to define a different 
rectangle to be used for tracking. My advice: light a candle, place 
it in a safe place where it can't have any potential to burn down 
your place, then go into Preferences, activate mouse mode or 
calibration and have a look at the options for the connected Wiimote 
while pointing it to the candle. That's a good way to understand how 
the whole InfraRed sensor / mouse mode works.

Best regards, 
Felix 

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26.04.2007 13:08:29
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Hi Felix, 
That makes a lot more sense. Keep up the good work. 
Thanks for the fast replys and GREAT support!!!

P.S. I was just having my morning coffee while reading your (fast) reply and it crossed my mind, that probably in a future release, Remote Buddy will support my coffee maker too. ;-) This program amazes me!!! 

User

27.04.2007 13:25:38
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hi,is it possible to adjust sensibility of the IR mouse? 
the cursor trembles a lot, and i cant seem to click on icons, i keep dragging them accidently :S 
Is it because im using a candle and not a IR emitter? 
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28.04.2007 14:44:02
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Hello Fillipe,

thanks for asking.

In fact Remote Buddy already has an algorithm to keep the cursor from 
excessive turbulences ;-)

I'll certainly work on the improvement of this algorithm, though.

Best regards, 
Felix 

User

12.05.2007 00:16:06
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Hi Felix,

While I have had good performance using the candle method, I was wondering if you think a home-made USB-powered LED IR device would work, something like this: 
http://e.inste.in/2007/04/13/building-a-wiimote-usb-sensor-bar/ 
Thanks, 
Steve 

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13.05.2007 15:21:12
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I've implemented support for the IR sensor starting with a battery of 
candles on the desk in front of the screen and finally cutting down 
Remote Buddy's candle needs to one candle - which is a world premiere 
as far as I know ;-)

 
Yes, but with only one IR source the control is not very good, and in the calibration process i can't set properly each edge screen. With two source is better, because there is a differential information, so the control is more "smooth" and precise. 
However, sometime i use my webcam with infrared led and it works. If your monitor is on a desk, put the IR source on the border of the desk for better control

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14.05.2007 15:46:11
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Hello Steve,

I guess pretty much anything that roughly takes the form of a spot 
and emits a sufficient amount of light in the infrared spectrum 
should work. There's also a ready-made (but not cheap by far 
considering the simplicity of the construction and the low cost of 
its elements) sensor bar replacement available from Nyko (and 
available through amazon.com):

http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=101

This construction is also quite clever (but no longer available as 
far as I can see):

http://gear.ign.com/articles/751/751096p1.html

Have a close look: it seems to take standard DYI-market elements and 
should be really cheap to put together - especially as you'd need 
just half of that bar for Remote Buddy.

Best regards, 
Felix 

User

14.05.2007 15:54:10
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Oh, it really depends on the strength of the IR source and whether 
it's standing still or changing its position randomly (like with the 
light of a candle). One light source works very well provided that it 
is strong enough. Two distants points don't add any advantage in 
precision or smoothness. They move by the same offset - and so does 
the mouse cursor in return.

The "black corner" phenomen is actually what the calibration feature 
in Remote Buddy is solving. With it, you can set the actual 
"rectangle of sight" Remote Buddy should use to interpolate to your 
screen's coordinates.

Best regards, 
Felix