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12.06.2006 20:54:47

Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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I like your application but I cant use it with Front Row and Quicksilver. When I try to activate Front Row, Quicksilver activates instead because I guess your using some applescript which is using Quicksilvers key combo for the current selection.

Any chance of a fix without ruining my quicksilver habbit

Also whilst I am here, as you have some applescript in your app how about a small dirty hack which will make skipping in VLC possible?

These entries from the FAQ may be relevant to this topic:

Hardware - Apple® Remote

After uninstalling/quitting Remote Buddy, my Mac® no longer reacts to the Apple® Remote. (FAQ015E0241)
To enable you to use all capabilities of the IR Receiver of your Mac®, Remote Buddy is using its own driver. In contrast, all other applications with integrated Apple® Remote support usually use the OS X Apple® Remote subsystem.

As long as you're running Remote Buddy, Remote Buddy and its driver are responsible for turning the received button presses into actions. As soon as you quit Remote Buddy, this task is again handled by the OS X Apple® Remote subsystem.

If other applications don't use the interface to the OS X Apple® Remote subsystem correctly, this can lead to the effect that nothing happens when you press a button on your Apple® Remote. For as long as you're running Remote Buddy, issues like this are covered by Remote Buddy and it's driver and are therefore not visible to you. However, as soon as you quit Remote Buddy, the OS X Apple® Remote subsystem is back in control and any issues caused in it by other applications become visible.

Therefore Remote Buddy is neither the cause of the issue nor is it responsible for it. Instead, the cause of the issue exists independently of Remote Buddy. It's located elsewhere and can also only be solved there.

Although our products can't cause any such issues, we're regularly contacted about such issues and asked for help. In order to make locating and fixing the cause of such issues as easy and efficient as possible, we've developed a free diagnostics tool: Remote Control Diagnostics. It can locate issues with a single click and will provide you with information about the issue as well as with instructions on how you can fix it.
After updating to OS X 10.6.2, my Apple® Remote is no longer available for selection in Remote Buddy. (FAQ015E0236)
Please update your copy of Remote Buddy to version 1.15 or later.

User

12.06.2006 23:05:02

Re: Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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Hello John,

thanks for your feedback!

I like your application but I cant use it with Front Row and
Quicksilver. When I try to activate Front Row, Quicksilver
activates instead because I guess your using some applescript which
is using Quicksilvers key combo for the current selection.

You haven't set this to "Apple + Esc" by any chance? Since this is
the key combo used to activate Front Row (and also the only possible
way to do this afaik), I can't change that key combo.

Any chance of a fix without ruining my quicksilver habbit

I'm under high time pressure atm but will definately have a look at
Quicksilver as soon as possible afterwards - also to exclude the
possibility of any problems with it :-)

Also whilst I am here, as you have some applescript in your app how
about a small dirty hack which will make skipping in VLC possible?

That's underway ;-)

Felix

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13.06.2006 08:07:32

Re: Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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You haven't set this to "Apple + Esc" by any chance? Since this is
the key combo used to activate Front Row (and also the only possible
way to do this afaik), I can't change that key combo.

Yes and No. :) Yes I have set a shortcut for Apple + Esc but it replaces Quicksilvers default action which is bound to Apple + Esc

To confirm this, check the Quicksilver manual http://docs.blacktree.com/quicksilver/command_key_reference

Now I know this is a conflict, and I get your answer and if there is no way around it then I guess something has to give my end. However how does the Apple remote invoke Front Row? I would guess you could reverse engineer that process...

I'm under high time pressure atm but will definately have a look at
Quicksilver as soon as possible afterwards - also to exclude the
possibility of any problems with it :-)

I totaly understand and thanks

Also whilst I am here, as you have some applescript in your app how
about a small dirty hack which will make skipping in VLC possible?

That's underway ;-)

Yay :)

Cheers

John

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User

20.06.2006 15:18:01

Re: Re: Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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Hello John,

sorry for the late reply.

Yes and No. :) Yes I have set a shortcut for Apple + Esc but it
replaces Quicksilvers default action which is bound to Apple + Esc

To confirm this, check the Quicksilver manual http://
docs.blacktree.com/quicksilver/command_key_reference

Now I know this is a conflict, and I get your answer and if there
is no way around it then I guess something has to give my end.
However how does the Apple remote invoke Front Row? I would guess
you could reverse engineer that process...

Front Row receives the Apple Remote button events seperately from the
keystrokes. So the keystrokes are really just an addition to remote
control access and not the way, the Apple Remote is invoking Front Row.

It's not possible for Remote Buddy to send Apple Remote button events
itself as far as I can see.

Also whilst I am here, as you have some applescript in your app how
about a small dirty hack which will make skipping in VLC possible?

That's underway ;-)

Yay :)

This feature arrived in preview 2 but you may still want to have a
look at preview 3 as well ;-)

Cheers,
Felix

User

20.06.2006 15:38:52

Re: Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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However how does the Apple remote invoke Front Row? I would guess you could reverse engineer that process...

Front Row receives the Apple Remote button events seperately from the keystrokes. So the keystrokes are really just an addition to remote control access and not the way, the Apple Remote is invoking Front Row.

It's not possible for Remote Buddy to send Apple Remote button events itself as far as I can see.

I think you missunderstood what I meant. I understand exactly what your saying, in fact its very similar to what I said.

What I meant to convey was, if there is a peice of Apples own software running that listens for the remote control and starts front row, without simply invoking the keyboard shortcut, then somewhere there is a hook in the system or the frontrow application to programitcally start front row. Maybe you could reverse engineer that code.

That was what I was saying. Apple somehow does it so its there somewhere...

This feature arrived in preview 2 but you may still want to have a
look at preview 3 as well ;-)

Will do

Cheers

John

User

21.06.2006 17:11:01

Re: Re: Using Remote Buddy with Quicksilver

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Hello John,

I'm looking at it, but so far I haven't found that mechanism. Some
interesting sidenodes, though:

- Apple's rcd.app seems to widely use AppleScript to communicate with
the apps supported by default

- Front Row uses Core Image and OpenGL a lot internally.

- Front Row uses AppleScript to communicate with iTunes and probably
other applications

- Front Row does not seem to be truely extendable by third parties at
this stage, since it seems to contain everything that makes it up in
one binary, not in seperate Cocoa bundles or the like.

I'll keep an eye on the topic nonetheless.

Felix

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