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User

28.02.2008 23:00:11
Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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I'm trying to use RemoteBuddy on a Mac without a built in IR receiver by using eHome receiver. This is working great however I want to be able to setup more than one Apple Remote so I can map more buttons to my universal remote.

I've noticed you can only select the option to use multiple Apple Remotes if you are using the built in IR receiver and not an external third party one. Is this an oversight or something that can't be implemented?

Are there any other options available to me? The FAQ states the MCE remote might be supported in the future, its this likely to happen anytime soon?

Thanks 

These entries from the FAQ may be relevant to this topic:

Hardware - Apple® Remote
Hardware - eHome 2005
User

01.03.2008 21:40:02
Re: Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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This posting is older than 6 months and can contain outdated information.
 
I've noticed you can only select the option to use multiple Apple 
Remotes if you are using the built in IR receiver and not an 
external third party one. Is this an oversight or something that 
can't be implemented?

 
Yes, multiple Apple Remotes are currently only available to the built- 
in IR receiver. Technically, it's no problem to implement this feature 
for MCE receivers, too, but I wasn't able to devote the time needed 
for this, yet.

Are there any other options available to me? The FAQ states the MCE 
remote might be supported in the future, its this likely to happen 
anytime soon?

 
The MCE remote is special, because of the patented RC-6 protocol it 
uses. I'd like to add support for it as time permits, but still need 
to do research on whether or not these Microsoft patents affect Remote 
Buddy. That's why I don't want to promise anything at this point.

Alternatively, you could also get a Keyspan Remote for iTunes bundle. 
The bundled remote with plenty of buttons as well as the Apple Remote 
(though, multi-support is not available here, either) are both 
supported. More info on the "supported hardware" page.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

10.03.2008 14:39:48
Re: Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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The MCE remote is special, because of the patented RC-6 protocol it 
uses. I'd like to add support for it as time permits, but still need 
to do research on whether or not these Microsoft patents affect Remote 
Buddy. That's why I don't want to promise anything at this point.

Felix Schwarz

 
Any update to this. Me and several of my mates could really use the MCE remote. It's ideal with the ability to control the TV, backlighting, good amount and layout of buttons, and low cost. PLEASE !

Thank you.

User

17.03.2008 12:58:16
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I'm afraid that's all info I can give you.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

18.12.2008 04:34:25
Re: Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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Is there any update on this? I am considering purchasing Remote Buddy but really need multiple apple remote support.

I've got a Mac Pro with no internal IR, so I hooked up a eHome IR port I had, to use with Plex. Remote Buddy works fine on it but I am not able add multiple remotes to it so my control in Plex is pretty limited?

If I could add multiple apple remotes to it I'd be good. Or if not with this IR does Remote Buddy support any IR receiver that I can use multiple apple remotes on?

Thanks! 

User

22.12.2008 12:31:17
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Thanks for asking.

Right now, Apple Remotes can not be differentiated when using an eHome 
receiver with RB. The only receiver for which RB supports that feature 
is Apple's receiver.

If you need a lot of buttons, the Bluetooth Sony BD Remote remains my 
recommendation. It's inexpensive and much easier to set up than 
"feeding" a number of Apple Remotes' codes into a programmable remote. 
And your Mac Pro (usually) already has the required Bluetooth receiver 
on board.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

22.12.2008 15:12:41
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Thank you for your response. I am wanting to use my existing Harmony Remote with Plex so the Sony remote will not help me.

I read somewhere on your site that you can set Remote Buddy up in a "driver only" mode. Would this mode allow multiple Apple remotes to pass though to the OS?

Is there any other hardware that you know of that would work with multiple apple remotes and is IR? Or does Remote Buddy only work with multiple remotes using the built in IR?

Thanks! 

User

29.12.2008 11:51:17
Re: Re: Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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I read somewhere on your site that you can set Remote Buddy up in a 
"driver only" mode.

 
The "Multiple Apple Remotes"-mode is only available for the built-in 
Apple IR receiver.

Would this mode allow multiple Apple remotes to pass though to the OS?

 
The IDs of Apple Remote button presses received through a built-in 
Apple IR receiver will also be forwarded beginning with the upcoming 
version 1.11.4.

Is there any other hardware that you know of that would work with 
multiple apple remotes and is IR?

 
At the time of writing: no.

Or does Remote Buddy only work with multiple remotes using the built 
in IR?

 
Simply put: yes.

Complete answer: 
It's not necessarily limited to one remote, but at the time of writing 
it can't differentiate them yet for other receivers than the built-in 
Apple IR receiver.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

04.01.2009 18:21:51
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I am also looking forward to use the multiple apple remote mode with my ehome receiver and my logitech harmony for plex.

As I dont have a builtin IR your Remote Buddy with multiple Remote capability + Logitech Harmony will be the only and ultimate solution for the so much needed more than 6 buttons in Plex and other Apps.

So I also kindly ask for this update in a near future as it will give Remote Buddy even more value.

Patiently waiting now for your update. And if I can be of any help feel free to contact me.

Best regards 
Marc 

User

10.01.2009 22:26:34
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The IDs of Apple Remote button presses received through a built-in 
Apple IR receiver will also be forwarded beginning with the upcoming 
version 1.11.4.

 
So am I correct in thinking that when 1.11.4 is out, I'll be able to set up a mapping in the Plex behavior that would correctly pass through all the possible button states of all 10 remote IDs that the Plex folks put in the Harmony database? Thus having Plex behave in exactly the same way it would with its own native support, but still allowing other applications to be controlled by Remote Buddy? That would be completely awesome, and I will 100% certainly buy Remote Buddy if that is correct.

Incidentally, I figured out all the remote IDs and button press combos for each button defined in the Harmony database last night, and I have the list if anyone wants to avoid going through the same mess for themselves. This would likely be useful even for people who aren't using Plex - it's the equivalent of a 60-key remote without needing a third-party IR receiver. 

User

17.01.2009 12:36:17
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So am I correct in thinking that when 1.11.4 is out,

1.11.4 is available for a few weeks now ;-)

I'll be able to set up a mapping in the Plex behavior that would 
correctly pass through all the possible button states of all 10 
remote IDs that the Plex folks put in the Harmony database?

 
Yes. For button presses originating from an Apple built-in IR 
receiver, all actions of the virtual remote will take the ID of the 
Apple Remote into account and generate Apple Remote events just like 
if RB wasn't running. It's totally transparent.

Thus having Plex behave in exactly the same way it would with its 
own native support, but still allowing other applications to be 
controlled by Remote Buddy?

 
Yes. Since the Harmony does use the menu key in multiple places, 
though, you'd have to do the following if you still want to enter the 
RB menu directly with your remote (other than by quitting Plex, which 
will always work):

1) Enable "Multiple Remote" support in RB Prefs > Hardware > Apple IR 
Receiver. Stay in that prefs pane.

2) Identify a button on your remote that you want to use to open the 
RB menu and that you won't want to use in Plex.

3) Press that button. The Remote ID is added to the list and 
highlighted.

4) Create a new logical remote and map it to that ID.

5) Now in RB > Prefs > Mapping > Plex, map the normal Apple Remote as 
seen at 
http://static.iospirit.com/static/objectfiles/image/649/EmulationConfig.jpg 
(except that in that screenshot, Global mapping is selected - but in 
this case, you'll really want to use the mapping table for the Plex 
Behaviour).

6) In the same place, apply the same settings for the logical remote 
you just set up.

7) Find out by trial and error which Apple Remote button the button 
you identified in step 1) actually represents and map "Open Remote 
Buddy menu" to it.

Alternatively - as hinted previously - if returning to RB's menu when 
quitting Plex is really all you need, all you have to do is

1) Go to RB > Prefs > Mapping > Plex

2) Apply the mapping as seen at 
http://static.iospirit.com/static/objectfiles/image/649/EmulationConfig.jpg 
(except that in that screenshot, Global mapping is selected - but in 
this case, you'll really want to use the mapping table for the Plex 
Behaviour).

It's really easy.

Incidentally, I figured out all the remote IDs and button press 
combos for each button defined in the Harmony database last night, 
and I have the list if anyone wants to avoid going through the same 
mess for themselves. This would likely be useful even for people who 
aren't using Plex - it's the equivalent of a 60-key remote without 
needing a third-party IR receiver.

Which Harmony Remote are you using? 
Which remote control from the database have you picked?

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

17.01.2009 16:31:33
Re: Multi Apple Remotes via eHome Receiver
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1.11.4 is available for a few weeks now ;-)

 
Ahh, I see that. I suppose I should have looked to see which version I had first. O_o

Yes. For button presses originating from an Apple built-in IR 
receiver, all actions of the virtual remote will take the ID of the 
Apple Remote into account and generate Apple Remote events just like 
if RB wasn't running. It's totally transparent.

 
Cool, I'll try it out tonight. I don't think I'll need a key for the RB menu while Plex is running - I'm planning on setting up any other apps I might use in Plex's Applications menu and launching them from there - once they're in the foreground, RB should be able to control them as usual I think.

Which Harmony Remote are you using? 
Which remote control from the database have you picked?

 
I'm using the 880, and using the "Plex" device from the database (it's listed as a Media Center PC, manufacturer "Plex", model name "Plex Player" IIRC. 
User

18.01.2009 07:34:07
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Well, it isn't working right for me. When Remote Buddy is running, Plex is not seeing the correct remote ids and is treating all the buttons as left, right, plus, minus, play, or menu. With Remote Buddy off, it is recognizing the buttons correctly. The mapping for the Plex behavior has all the buttons for each remote id set to virtual remote with the corresponding button press. 
User

18.01.2009 09:11:16
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Are you using version 1.11.4?

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz 

User

19.01.2009 15:21:52
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Yes, I'm using 1.11.4 - at least, that's what it says in the "About Remote Buddy" dialog. 
User

19.01.2009 19:50:06
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If you could post the remote mappings you've found that would be really helpful. I know there are others on the Plex forums looking for the same.

Thanks,

Tom 

User

21.01.2009 13:58:26
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I've posted them in the "Plex added native Harmony remote" thread, which is really where discussion of my issue needs to be anyway since I'm using the Apple built-in receiver and this thread was originally about the eHome receiver. 
User

08.02.2009 04:19:15
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I'd like to add my please for this request. I know you might not be able to answer this, but I'll ask anyways. Do you think the multiple remote feature will be coming to the eHome receiver anytime soon? I'd love to hold out until this get works out, but if it's looking uncertain I can start looking down different avenues.

Thank you for reading, and I just wanted to say besides this hang up this is some of the most impressive remote software I've seen 
:-) 

User

12.05.2012 00:45:45
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PUSH

I'm trying to use RemoteBuddy on a Mac without a built in IR receiver by using eHome receiver. This is working great however I want to be able to setup more than one Apple Remote so I can map more buttons to my universal remote.

I've noticed you can only select the option to use multiple Apple Remotes if you are using the built in IR receiver and not an external third party one. Is this an oversight or something that can't be implemented?

Are there any other options available to me? The FAQ states the MCE remote might be supported in the future, its this likely to happen anytime soon?

Thanks

 
Hi, i use the following setup

Lion 10.7.3 
Remote Buddy 1.2.1 
Harmony 900 
external (eHome/MCE) receiver

is it possible to use multiple virtual remotes? 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22405751/Bildschirmfoto-2012-05-12-um-00.35.15.png

Thanks

User

12.05.2012 15:20:02
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Thanks for asking.

is it possible to use multiple virtual remotes?

 
Support for multiple Apple Remotes is currently limited to Apple IR receivers.

Best regards, 
Felix Schwarz